Jade Regent - OOC

[SpamHead]

I just noticed my character sheet lists S'Vith as lawful good?  I haven't really been RPing him that way at all, so I may switch him to chaotic good if that's allowed.

Your character is actually something other than chaotic? ;D

[Phil]

The Monk class actually requires a Lawful alignment.  But you could switch him to Martial Artist archetype that doesn't require that.  It'd be fitting from a fluff perspective too.

Or Tick could just allow it if he wants.

[SpamHead]

I actually haven't yet subtracted the Cloak of Resistance from those.  If someone wants it, their character can damn well ask Owen for it themselves ;).

Oh and that reminds me, I've updated my Mythweaver's sheet but not the statblock.  Will try and do that shortly.

I don't want it, I won't be needing saves much.

[SteveRogers]

Ah.  I don't want to lose the extra monk stuff either though.  Is there a loophole there for me to RP him as being lawful according to the social norms of his original environment?  Maybe what was lawful there is more chaotic once he's been transplanted.

[Phil]

Martial Artist has its own stuff, and its identical to a regular monk until level 3 besides the alignment being whatever you want.  It mostly trades the "Ki Focus" stuff for a different mechanic about exploiting an enemy's weakness.

I'd give it a look.  It's what I was planning on having my own brawling Monk be.

[Phil]

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[SteveRogers]

Hmmm.  Considering I haven't really done much with the "Ki Focus" thing, that may be a better option.  Would I lose grapple and Flurry of Blows?

[Phil]

Nope.  Like I said, its identical to a normal Monk mechanics wise until level 3.  Then at level 4 is your first real divergence.

Fluff wise, I think its a no-brainer.  Look at the features of Martial Artist, they are great fluff  for a brawling dwarf :).  S'Vith doesn't seem like a "meditate in a monastery" kind of dude.

[TheTick]

I don't mind a 'Lawful' person being impulsive, but I do feel like most Monks (other than those martial artists) would strive to be lawful.  I'm trying to work that out myself for my Drunken Master.  That martial artist archetype looks pretty interesting.

[SteveRogers]

Yeah, I've mentioned that in passing a couple of times, but it hasn't really felt like an organic element of his character.  I've been sort of dueling with myself about whether it would be authentic to his nature to include those elements.  As I've RPed him, they don't really fit, but I could make a few necessary smaller adjustments to sort of sell that a bit more.  I've had too much fun making him a sort of antagonistic, cavalier do-gooder.

[SteveRogers]

If I make that change, I may have to move some of my skill points around a little because I feel like it would be silly for S'Vith to retain the skill points in Knowledge of Religion.  I may just move them over to a different type of Knowledge, so it doesn't change the structure of the character as is too much.

Edit:

In looking at some of the different feats available for a Martial Artist (using the paizo source instead), what does it mean when it says you can use your "monk level" to determine things?

[TheTick]

I wouldn't have a problem with those changes.

[Phil]

In looking at some of the different feats available for a Martial Artist (using the paizo source instead), what does it mean when it says you can use your "monk level" to determine things?

There are certain fighter feats that require you to be "Fighter level 4" or whatever.  As a martial artist you can take those with your Monk levels. 

Mostly for things like "Greater Weapon Focus" and the like, which come up when at a higher level.

[SteveRogers]

So, Monk Level just refers to the character's overall level?  So, S'Vith would be at Monk Level 2 right now.

Also, I like the idea of making S'Vith a former monk who lost his faith but kept his combat training.  So, I may move the Knowledge points around a little to decrease Religion and increase something else as opposed to eliminating religion entirely.  That seems more in line with the sometimes bitter, sometimes well humored, sometimes hedonistic contrasts S'Vith has shown as he's been RPed.

Today's forecast:  Expect an even bawdier S'Vith.

[Phil]

Sort of.  If you take a Monk level each time you level up, then yes.  But if your next level is Rogue or something, that level doesn't count towards qualifying for those feats.  Only the ones you take in Monk.

I don't know if any of us plan on class "dips", but the rules have to be written to account for the possibility :).